
*Originally published on October 26, 2015 at SheKnows.com.
Iāll admit, my motivation for wanting to interview Chef Jacques PĆ©pin was completely selfish. I remember as a teen watching his cooking shows with my mom and brother on the couch every weekend. As an adult, Iāve continued to watch him prepare classic French dishes on television with a level of ease and comfort that make even a complicated meal seem attainable. His style is effortless and personable, as if you were right there in the kitchen with him.
Now, with his 25th cookbook, Jacques PƩpin: Heart & Soul in the Kitchen, and accompanying PBS television series, I finally got the chance to talk to this award-winning master chef. His latest project is a true labor of love that provides a narrative of his life through food, family, friends and his own artwork.
Jacques PĆ©pin: Well, I may not stop entirely. I mentioned that I wouldnāt be doing another big cookbook like Heart and Soul and an accompanying television show with 26 episodes again. The book took about three years. Hopefully, Iāll do a smaller project, like something with my granddaughter where I give her lessons on cooking or something. But hopefully, Iāll slow down a bit.
SK: Heart and Soul seems like itās just as much the story of your life as it is a cookbook. Was that intentional?
JP: It was an intentional decision. I did a book called The Apprentice [his autobiography], and this is a bit of an extension of this. Iāve done so many books and television series focused on food, like entertaining or making fast food. With Heart and Soul, I just wanted to reminisce. Thatās why we have stories about my friends, what I cook with my daughter and granddaughter, what I cook at home or for my wife. Thereās all kinds of things in this cookbook, so itās a bit all over the place: from Puerto Rican inspired dishes (his wife Gloria is of Puerto Rican and Cuban decent) to Mexican, or Chinese or Japanese. Basically, I had no limits here with this cookbook. This is what I like to cook at home. I like all the books that Iāve done, but here there was a lot more family involved: my best friend Jean Claude Szurdak, my daughter Claudine, my granddaughter Shorey and my wife Gloria. So in that sense, it was closer to me.
SK: Heart and Soul definitely comes off that way. It seems much more special and comforting to read.
JP: Thank you! Thatās the reason I put a lot of my artwork and illustrated menus in it because it shows different parts of my life.
SK: Speaking of that, there is a lot of your artwork in this cookbook. Tell me a little bit about what sort of place art has in your life.
JP: When you open the book, there are two menus. After 50 years of marriage, we have seven or eight big books of hand written and illustrated menus. We got into the habit after we got married, when people came to our house, we wrote the menu out and weād have our guests sign the opposite page. Sometimes, Iād illustrate them, sometimes I didnāt. Itās a journey through our life. Itās very personal, so we wanted to put some of that into the book.
SK: What has it been like to have both your daughter, Claudine, and your granddaughter, Shorey, on your new show? Youāve got three generations of your family on the show!
JP: I just watched the third show in the series, and Iām cooking with Claudine. Shorey was in an episode before that for this series. Itās fun certainly. Again, it makes it more personal. They wanted to come on the show. The only one who doesnāt want to cook on TV with me is my wife, Gloria. Sheās extremely private. She hates being on television.
SK: What are your plans now that youāre retiring from television?
JP: I still teach at Boston University, where Iāve been for 33 years. Iām still teaching at the French Culinary Institute. Iām the culinary director for Oceana Cruises. And Iāll still do a lot of food and wine events. Iāll still be really busy.
SK: Youāve mentioned before that some ācelebrity chefsā can spend too much time on the ācelebrity,ā and not enough on the cooking. Who are some of your favorite well known chefs that youāre a fan of right now?
JP: Oh my gosh, thereās so many! Thomas Keller is probably the best chef in America. Thereās Jean-Georges Vongerichten and Daniel Boulud. And thereās a group of us PBS chefs who are still teaching people like Lidia Bastianich, Ming Tsai and Rick Bayless. Theyāre great cooks and great teachers.
SK: Do you think part of being a good ācelebrity chefā is about teaching and mentoring, as well?
JP: Well, it depends on your own style and character. Iām not an actor. I canāt be different than I am. Some people find my shows boring, and thatās fine with me. You canāt please everybody. Some chefs get crazy or overly fancy with their array of food, which Iām not particularly interested in. And confrontation in the kitchen isnāt my thing. I feel thereās a great deal of yourself and who you are when youāre cooking. So, the yelling is not condusive to my cooking. I know itās television and people want that kind of entertainment. But itās not really my style.
SK: When youāre relaxing at home with no obligations, what is your ideal meal? Would you cook or would someone else be doing the cooking?
JP: Usually I cook at home, or my wife. If sheās cooking in the kitchen and I come in, she usually tells me not to touch anything! But otherwise, what we cook is determined by the season, by the garden, by the market and by our mood. Sometimes, youāre in the mood for a soup or a stew because itās cold. Sometimes, you want a fresh tomato out of the garden just with a bit of olive oil on top. Sometimes, you have a hangover and you want something else. But usually, itāll be food I can recognize that is relatively simply cooked without too much embellishment on the plate.
SK: Is there anything youād like to tell your fans who have followed your career?
JP: Well, my goal is to bring a smile to the face of someone. I hope theyāre happy with what Iāve done, or follow one of my recipes and make it their own. That is gratifying for me.
Jacques PĆ©pinās latest cookbook, Jacques PĆ©pin: Heart & Soul in the Kitchen, is available in bookstores now. The accompanying television series of the same name airs on PBS. Check your local listings.
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